APPENDIX 2 - To the KOLDAS materialAPPENDIX 2 - To the KOLDAS material.
Teleportation of Auto and Passengers
(Translated to danish)
Another unique aspect of this strange case of UFO contact with Earth humans is
the fact that two different extraterrestrial societies carrying out independent
operations here on Earth were brought into contact with each other as a
result of an experiment conducted by Carl van Vlierden.
Van Vlierden had investigated a strange case of teleportation of an
automobile and its 2 passengers, 392 kilometers at nearly 200 kilometers per
hour by two UFOs which he reported in considerable detail in an article for the
prestigious English UFO journal, Flying Saucer Review. The case was published in
Volume 21, Number 2, 1975, a copy of which is reproduced here with special
permission of FSR. Van Vlierden brought Peter and Frances to Edwin's home to
introduce them to the Koldasians in the hope that Valdar could tell them
something more about the case and where the operators of the two flying discs
come from.
It turned out that the group who had transported Peter and Frances and their car
was previously unknown to the Koldasians, and the new group had no prior
knowledge of the Koldasians as individual entities either. The meeting was an
historic one because it opened up a new contact between two separate
extraterrestrial groups both operating in earthspace, previously unknown to each
other, and there may be still others.
Cythia Hind, another African UFO researcher, reported the original
investigation of this case in detail in her book “UFOs, AFRICAN ENCOUNTERS
” published by Gemini (Zimbabwe), devoting 2 whole chapters to this important
case.
APPENDIX III
Reciprocal Paradox
(gjensidige, tilsynelatende selvmotsigelser)
A popular misconception of the true nature of time and space and their intimate
interrelationship is one of the great stumbling blocks in our understanding of
modern physics. Because of our inadequate comprehension of this relationship
we are inclined to summarily reject the frequent references in UFO cases to
anti-matter, reverse time and negative gravity; and on that basis reject the
case too and at the same time the opportunity to study these aspects of our
reality.
In a dialogue between an extraterrestrial space-traveller visiting Switzerland
aboard a disc-shaped spacecraft and the witness, the alien cosmonaut told the
Swiss farmer (who had a 6th grade formal education) that matter and energy were
simply opposite aspects of the same phenomenon and that when we understood the
phenomenon we would be able to convert one to the other at will. (more info on
the Meier case see ufo-contact from the Pleiades of.W.Stevens) The stranger discussed coarse
matter (chemical matter), fine matter or coarse energy, and then fine energy;
and said that matter was simply energy slowed down, and that energy was matter
speeded up in time. The cosmonaut went on to say that a similar relationship
existed between what we called space and time.
When the witness asked where the first energy came from, the stranger
simply said, "thought". A most profound statement indeed. It was indicated
that all comes from consciousness itself, Universal Mind, the Divine Fiat, in
biblical allegory truly the Word of God. Modern physicists are just
discovering and accepting that matter and energy are bound up in space and time,
and that space and time are bound up in matter and energy together with
electricity and gravity in an inseparable relationship making up our phenomenal
world.
In another dialogue the cosmonauts mentioned a counterpart reality of
equal and opposite polarities; literally an 'anti-matter' universe co-existing
with and balancing ours. They said that they were in contact with this
counterpart universe and some of its intelligent occupants. They described a
trip through the "barrier" as relatively uneventful to those within the ship
and its field as the change was made. This is very similar to the statements by
the Koldasian cosmonauts in this book, and yet we can find no evidence that
these witnesses ever heard of each other.
Nearly everybody threw the Swiss case out as it was occurring in 1975 and 1976
because of these and other similar "absurdities". This, however, did not daunt
the cosmonauts visiting earth. Extraterrestrials visiting Northern Venezuela
and South Africa, as described in this book, continued to answer
similar questions along these same lines. One must consider, just who is the
loser in our foolish disregard of potential evidence in UFO cases, even if it is
sometimes meta-physical?
Another variable phenomenon frequently mentioned in UFO cases, that may not
have been identified as such yet, is the direct interrelationship between
electricity and gravity. Extraterrestrials from what we call Reticulum
described these phenomena as different aspects of the same field phenomenon
which are supposed to be also controllable. We are still trying to learn such
control.
A small publication titled "The New Science" written by Wilbert B. Smith,
B.A., M.A., in 1964, went a long way toward defining and explaining this
relationship in his Quadrature Concept. He postulated a universe of four
fabrics making up the quadrature. He called the first one the Space Fabric
consisting of three parameters: Length, Area and Volume; and the second one the
Field Fabric also consisting of three parameters: Density, Divergence, and
Curl. Here density is really an expression of how reality is distributed in
space and time, existence in a Tempic field where time is found to be a
consequence. It is a scale against which any change in reality must be gauged.
Divergence is the static condition of change, an "electric field", scaler in
vector and quantity and in manner and distribution. Curl is the quantity and
direction of divergence. It produces the magnetic field with vectorial and
scaler quantities. An important thing to remember is that the Electric Field has
the Tempic field (time) incorporated in it and the Magnetic Field has the
Electric Field incorporated in it.
Each of these three fields are mutually at right angles to each other.
Together they are the manifestation of reality in the Field Fabric as
perceived by awareness, becoming matter and energy as we know it.
Smith called the third Quadrature the Control Fabric which again included three
parameters: Orientation or direction, Decision or free will in action, and
Symmetry or sequence and order. Here consequence is introduced. He called the
fourth Quadrature the Percititation Fabric also made up of three parameters
which bring matter and energy into being. They are: Form or the boundary of
reality (Half of reality is inside and half outside of form. The half that is
outside of familiar form is the balancing equal and opposite part.),
Multiplicity or individuality, and Aggregation or assembly into purposeful
structure.
Unfortunately Smith died before he finished his paper but his equations
clearly showed the necessary existence of an equal and opposite counterpart to
our reality as we know it, probably of opposite spin, and that this' counterpart
must be of matter and energy of opposite polarity - an "Anti-matter Universe
Spin is in fact the primordial building force of matter and energy. All that
we have in this material universe, whether matter or energy, is made up of spin.
As time is nothing more than a consequence of spin, and not something by which
spin may be measured, we can see that there has to be an opposite of time or
"Reverse Time".
Astronomers have postulated, from different perspectives, the necessary
existence of an anti-matter universe with reverse time and have carefully
diagrammed its nature and relationship in a fabulous book, the beautiful
work titled "GALAXIES" by Timothy Farris.
In the early 1970s, Mr. Anthony Serantitis, formerly of Dow Chemicals,
published his new and controversial Unified Field Law, where he reduces matter
to its ultimate which he called a primary photon. His photon is not even matter
or energy yet, but the basic component of both, and can become either. He also
found that direction of spin made the difference between precipitate matter
in our frame of reference (our universe) and an opposite frame of reference - an
"Anti-matter Universe
He found that in fact the one cannot exist without the other, and that there can
be counterpart universes opposed along an infinite number of axes, or an
infinite number of equal and opposite universes. Serantitis published his first
work only for colleagues interested in his progress.
As far as I can determine, neither Edwin nor Carl van Vlierden have had access
to either Wilbert Smith's papers or/nor have they ever heard of Anthony
Serantitis and his work.
In these counterpart universes one would expect to find that any evolutionary
development in one would find a similar but opposite expression in the other in
order to maintain the balance. If a humanity developed in one then some
similar manifestation might be looked for in the other. This is exactly what is
described in at least two separate and unconnected ongoing UFO contact
cases where the separate witnesses are completely unknown to each other
and there is no contact at all between them. The UFOnauts visiting
Switzerland told their witness that they were in contact with, and in fact
coordinating with, human beings very similar to them and us, who said they came
from a counterpart universe that was just as vast and complex as our own, and
which co-existed in time and space with us but was imperceptible to us in our
frame of reference because their universe was of opposite polarity.
In the case featured in this book (Koldas) we find something very similar
described by human beings who claim they come from our counterpart solar system
in a counterpart universe to observe our progress and development so as to
report this information back to their own reality frame of reference because
of the effect we have on them and they on us. These extraterrestrials also
describe their trip through the space-time barrier as being relatively
uneventful to those aboard the ship, and certainly not violently explosive as
postulated in our Science Fiction. It is all a matter of knowledge,
understanding and control.
An excellent description and contemporary analysis of space/time geometry and
its paradoxes was published in a remarkable book called "The Tao Of Physics"
authored by Fritjof Capra, printed and distributed in 1976 by Shamballa
Publications of Boulder, Colorado. This book demonstrates the necessary
exist~nce of an "antimatter" universe and reverse time.
The "Quantum Field Theory" as illustrated in the Feynman space/time diagrams
and the mathematical expressions associated with them clearly demonstrate
the necessary existence for every particle of an anti-particle with equal mass
and opposite charge. The mathematics of the field theory depicted by the solid
and broken lines in these diagrams can be interpreted two ways, either as
particle actions moving forward or as particle actions moving backward in time!
The interpretations are identical, an anti-particle moving from future to past
or a particle from past to future. All such space/time diagrams may be read in
either direction. For every process there is an equivalent process with the
direction of time reversed and the particles replaced by anti-particles in the
equation. They are entirely symmetrical and one does not work without the other.
What Capra in his “Tao of Physics” concluded of the most minute microcosmic
physical particle might then be equally said for the macrocosmic universe as
described to us by other extraterrestrials visiting Earth. Capra describes the
microcosmic view of the manifest universe as a dynamic web of interrelated
events. None of the properties of any part of this web is fundamental; they all
flow from the properties of other parts, and the overall consistency of
their mutual interrelationships determines the structure of the entire web.
This “bootstrap philosophy” comes close to the eastern “World View” propounded
by Taoist Sages both in general philosophy and in the specific picture of
matter. This view accepts no fundamental separateness of physical reality, but
rather only the local appearance of it at any given time and place.
Extraterrestrial cosmonauts who said that they came from a planet they
called Iarga (see ufo-contact from planet Iarga) told their Earth contactee, a
Dutch Industrialist, that all life throughout the entire universe is
interrelated, and that no planet or sun exists in complete separateness by
itself. These beings, despite the radical difference in their physical
appearance, insisted that they were here because of that mutual
interrelationship of life and consciousness, and that we are in fact all truly
brothers. TheIargans sought to advise us in a time of spiritual and
philosophical folly dangerous to us both.
The strange unearthly creatures from the distant planet Koshnak located in the
region of the sky we call Orion, who maintained contact with a very well known
businessman and consultant in government service, also a Baptist Minister in
Puerto Rico for a number of years, and who operated from an undersea base in the
deep Puerto Rican Trench, described a similar relationship of consciousness
and its manifest physical creation in a series of dialogues with their
contactee.* These spacemen also considered themselves to be our brothers simply
enjoying a broader view of reality. They have been coming here for some time.
The diminutive space-travelling human-like beings from the constellation
Reticulum said that they were an exploring society seeking to understand the
vastness of the creation to which they belonged. They were also carrying
out their own scientific experiments, some under water, here because of our
unique peculiarities in density. They also described a broadscale
interrelationship of all planetary and interplanetary life, considering us as
brothers and concerned about our survival.**
The strange non-human being who said that he came from a star in another Galaxy
beyond what we call Rigel from here also told his contactee, an Ethnic American
Indian girl, that we and they are brothers in creation, and that we both exist
in terms of our relationships with each other and many more. He mentioned whole
universes beyond our native perception of reality.***
This is exactly what we find in the information also expressed by the
human-like beings from what they call the DAL Universe, described as an
anti-matter counterpart of our own matter universe. They said that they existed
because we did, and we because of them.( see ufo-contact from the Pleiades
of.W.Stevens)Much to ponder indeed.
*UFO CONTACT FROM UNDERSEA, Sanchez-Ocejo, Stevens
**UFO CONTACT FROM RETICULUM, Stevens,Herrmann
***UFO CONTACT FROM BEYOND RIGEL, (Unpublished)
APPENDIX V
Voice Recording From Space
As this manuscript was being finalized, the Koldasians themselves re-contacted
the witnesses and observed that the report was being made. For this contact they
used the direct electromagnetic transmission through a standard audio cassette
tape-recorder, somewhat similar to the method used with Edwin's radio receiver
before it was confiscated and taken away. The recording was made in front of
several other witnesses.
The communicators first transmitted personal information to Edwin and some of
the others present, and then added their idea of an Epilogue to close the book,
and finally ended up with a special message for all of Earth humanity.
We have decided definitely to include that special message, in the voice of the
speaker, just as it was recorded on Edwin's cassette recorder, for all to hear.
The book had that message impressed on the included 33 RPM disc recording in
the form of a plastic page bound into the book. This page was be cut out and
then be played on a standard 33 RPM Disc-type record player.
Our thanks to the Koldasian visitors.
danish:
Møde med UFO og teleportation i Rhodesia
Denne begivenhed fandt sted natten mellem den 30. og 31. maj 1974, da et ungt
ægtepar, Peter og Frances, kørte i bil fra Salisbury over Fort Victoria og Beit
Bridge ved grænsen til Durban, Natal, Sydafrika. Det unge par var forvirret over
begivenheden, men da de ikke kendte ret meget til UFO-spørgsmålet, selv om
Peter tidligere havde været ude for en oplevelse, vidste de ikke, hvem de kunne
henvende sig til med en rapport. Da de havde boet i Den sydafrikanske Republik
i nogle måneder, læste de tilfældigt en artikel om en UFO-rapport i en avis. De
kontaktede avisen og blev henvist til Carl van Vlierden, der er korrespondent
for Flying Saucer Review i Sydafrika.
Han fik dem til at udfylde en observationsformular og fik også tilladelse til
at optage et interview med dem på bånd. Dette foregik i deres hjem i december
1974.
HENDELSEN
Natten mellem den 30. og 31. maj 1974 var skyfri med fuld sigtbarhed, selvom
Månen ikke var fremme. Begivenhederne begyndte på et sted omkring 10 km syd
for Umvuma, da begge vidner så en politibetjent, det troede de i det mindste,
som sad ved vejen og holdt en walkie-talkie i hånden. Peter kørte sin Peugeot
404 med en fart, der overskred fartgrænsen på 100 km i timen ret meget. Han
vidste, der ofte var fartkontrol på denne del af vejen, så han satte farten ned.
De begyndte begge at tænke mere indgående over politibetjenten. Peter
bemærkede, at det metalagtige tøj var underligt for en politibetjent, da de
normalt havde khaki på. Frances beskrev tøjet som plastikagtigt. Hun kiggede sig
tilbage, men kunne ikke se noget.
UFO'et dukkede op kl. 2.30. Frances er helt sikker på tiden, for hun havde lige
set på sit ur. De opdagede først noget, der lignede et projektørlys, der blev
tændt og slukket. Det dukkede op temmelig tæt på bilens venstre side og holdt
samme fart som denne. Et stykke tid troede de, at det kunne være en helikopter.
Lyset havde et blåligt farveskær, var klart og regelmæssigt, tændt i 5 sekunder,
slukket i 2 sekunder.
De kørte nu 140 km i timen, bilens maksimale hastighed. Pludselig begyndte
bilens lygter at blive svage, men radioen fortsatte med at fungere perfekt, mens
de lyttede til et jazzprogram fra Loureno Marques i Mozambique. Der var også et
kraftigt lys rundt om bilen, som fra neonlys, nok til at kaste skygger.
Mens de kørte, blev det pludseligt meget koldt i bilen, og de måtte pakke sig
ind i frakker, trøjer og tæpper og tænde for den elektriske varme, der, ligesom
radioen, stadig virkede. Tændingen må også have været normal, for motoren
fungerede godt. Så tog Peter sin fod fra speederen, men vognen fortsatte med at
køre 150 km i timen!
Kulden i bilen var meget usædvanlig. Peter havde adskiffige gange kørt turen, og
han sagde, at han aldrig havde været ude for sådan en kulde. Der var som i et
køleskab, og han anslog temperaturfaldet til at have været fra 6~80C ned til
under 100.
Peter fortalte, at han kørte fra et sted 18 km udenfor Fort Victoria og til
byens tankstation uden forlys og uden at have bilen under kontrol. Han kunne
ikke standse den, for bremserne virkede ikke. Den kørte med omkring 160 km i
timen, og da han tog foden fra speederen for at bruge bremsen, blev bilen bare
ved med at køre.
Peter: ,,Jeg tog kun foden af speederen én gang. Jeg var som forstenet, men
sagde ingenting til Frances, for hun syntes alierede at være på randen af
hysteri over alt det, der var sket."
Frances: ,,Det var som om bilen var under kontrol. Som passager lagde jeg ikke
mærke til noget, der var forkert. Bilen svingede ikke frem og tilbage på vejen.
Peter sad bare uden at gøre noget, det var som om, vi kørte på automatisk
pilot."
Så fløj UFO'et over på den anden side af bilen og blev der et kort stykke tid.
På det tidspunkt passerede de en afrikansk bus, der holdt parkeret udenfor em
butik. Alle bussens lygter var tændte, men der var ingen mennesker at se, og
det var mærkeligt, da disse busser plejer at være stopfyldte med passagerer, der
meget nødigt forlader deres personlige bagage. Nogle få kilometer nede ad vejen
holdt der en anden bus og endnu længere fremme endnu én. Begge var tomme. De
var parkeret ved vejsiden, hvilket er forbudt i Rhodesia, og sker der et uheld,
er det pålagt chaufføren at anbringe en rød advarselstrekant bag køretøjet, men
det var der ikke gjort ved disse busser.
Der kom en lysstråle fra UFO'et og ned til horisonten, eller, spurgte Frances,
kunne det være fra horisonten og op til UFO'et?
Omtrent 10 km uden for Fort Victoria forsvandt UFO'et ligesom et stjerneskud.
Kl. 4.30 kørte de ind på en servicestation i Fort Victoria uden lys på. Peter
afbrød motoren, og da han en time senere tændte for den igen, var lygterne
normale. Tankpasseren bemærkede, at der var noget galt med deres forlygter.
Mens han fyldte tanken op til randen, sagde Frances, som var hyllet ind i en
pels og uldtrøjer, at det var en meget kold nat. Den indfødte tankpasser, som
havde ligget og sovet ved siden af tanken kun iklædt undertrøje og shorts,
kiggede forbavset på hende og sagde, at det ikke var koldt. Bilen var først varm
igen, da de efter en pause kørte videre kl. 5.30.
Omtrent 10 km udenfor Fort Victoria gjorde Frances endnu engang Peter
opmærksorn på, at et UFO/UFO'et var dukket op på deres venstre side, men denne
gang så de også et andet, som gik i stilling over bilen. Denne gang var lyset
konstant, og de var små eller også meget højere oppe.
Et mærkeligt aspekt ved rejsen var, at bortset fra ,,politibetjenten" og en
indfødt på tankstationen, mindedes de ikke at have set nogen under turen. Der
var heller ikke andre køretøjer end de tre busser, som jo blev set under
mærkelige omstændigheder. Man må også tage i betragtning, at folk foretrækker at
køre om natten på grund af varmen om dagen, og desuden var det natten før en
fridag i Sydafrika, nationaldagen, hvorfor man skulle forvente ekstra meget
trafik.
De kom nu ind i et terræn, som de ikke havde forventet. Vegetationen i dette
område er sparsorn med nogle få ,,paraplytræer" og spredt lav buskads på meget
tør jord. Men nu kørte de gennem et udstrakt område med sump; der var vand på
overfladen, som reflekterede lyset fra UFO'erue. Vejen var helt tør, men ved
siden af var der masser af vand og tropisk vegetation. Normalt var der en
konstant støj fra fårekyllinger og cikader, men den var nu borte, og motoren
kunne de heller ikke høre. Det var som en drømmerejse, hvor alle lydene var
borte undtagen radioen, der kværnede løs på det samme program som før.
Peter mistede igen kontrollen over bilen, og den kørte nu 200 km i timen eller
mere. Han indrømmede, at han var skræmt fra vid og sans. ,,Først prøvede jeg på
at ignorere fænomenet som en optisk illusion, men så opdagede jeg, at jeg
mistede kontrollen; det var, som om det var en anden, der styrede bilen det
var ikke mig, der kørte, jeg kunne ligeså godt være kravlet om på bagsædet."
Skønt vejen fra Fort Victoria til Beit Bridge langt fra er lige, var den denne
aften helt lige; lige som en snor indtil ca. 3 km før Beit Bridge. Det blev nu
helt lyst, men overskyet og gråt; de havde ingen solopgang set, og Peter
slukkede forlygterne. UFO'erne kunne stadig ses, men højere oppe. Der var stadig
ingen tegn pa liv, hverken mennesker eller dyr. Frances faldt i søvn kl. 6.15,
men kort tid før forsvandt lyden fra radioen.
Unde hele turen havde det ikke været nødvendigt at skifte station, hvilket er
mærkeligt på grund af den store afstand, de havde tilbagelagt. De masede med
den et stykke tid, men kunne ikke få en lyd ud af den.
Peter mistede tidsfornemmelsen kl. 5.30, og da Frances var faldet i søvn, følte
han sig som under hypnose.
Frances vågnede, da de nærmede sig Beit Bridge ca. kl. 7. Der var ingen sol, og
de to objekter var stadig synlige. De rhodesiske grænsevagter var det første
levende, de så, siden de havde forladt Fort Victoria, og de havde safaritøj på.
Da de så Frances og Peter, blev de forbløffede og spurgte, om de lige var kommet fra Nordpolen.
Nu var UFO'erne borte, og Solen var fremme som normalt, men de kunne ikke huske,
at de overhovedet havde set den stå op. Da Peter aflæste triptælleren, som han
havde stillet på nul i Fort Victoria, var han forbavset over at se, at den kun
havde talt 17 km, selv om afstanden fra Fort Victoria til Beit Bridge er 288 km.
Han havde tanket op til randen i Fort Victoria og ville nå have en ekstra
forsyning ved den sydafri kanske kontrolpost. Da han gjorde dette kunne tanken
kun tage mindre end to liter svarende til det, som er brugt mellem For Victoria
og det sted, hvor UFO'erne mødt dem for anden gang den nat.
De havde også tidligere haft nogle usædvanlige oplevelser; Peter fortalte, at
fra han var 14 og indtil for 4-5 år siden, da han var 19, havde været vant til
astralvandringer Men han holdt op med det, da han mødte Frances, for hun kunne
ikke lide det.
Frances: ,,Der var en nat, hvor jeg fik et forfærdeligt chok; han lå og sov, og
så var han pludselig væk... ja, jeg troede, han var død, for han åndede ikke, og
hans hud jeg kunne næsten se igennem ham, hans hud var næsten transparent. Jeg
forstod, at han måtte være på astralvandring, for jeg
fandt ud af, at han åndede meget svagt. Heldigyis vidste jeg, at jeg ikke skulle
vække ham, så det gjorde jeg ikke, og omkring 10 minutter senere var han normal
igen, og jeg vækkede ham. Han har aldrig gjort det siden, og jeg ved ikke, hvad
der skete dengang... jeg har aldrig spurgt dig."
CvV: ,,Når du har været på astralvandring, har du så set snoren, der forbinder
dig med dit fysiske legeme?"
Peter: ,,Ja".
CvV: ,,Og denne sidste UFO-oplevelse?"
Peter: ,,Dct var nøjagtig den samme følelse, som man får, når man foriader sin
fysiske krop som de første stadier, hvor man slapper af og går ind i sig selv
og forbereder sig på astralvandring. Sådan følte jeg det."
Siden UFO-oplevelsen var Peters telepatiske evner blevet mindre, men hans
koncentrationsevne havde forbedret sig. Frances fortalte, at hun havde haft en
fantastisk hukommelse, f. eks. kunne hun lige før en eksamen læse en bog igennem
og huske den ordret, men denne evne var nu fuldstændig forsvundet.
Peter fortalte, at han i juli 1964 også havde set en flyvende tallerken. Han
tegnede en fortræffelig skitse af objektet og skildrede oplevelsen i detaljer.
Han kørte sammen med sin far i dennes varevogn på en grusvej uden for Shabani.
Der var en jordvold ved et sving, og da de kom omkring hjørnet, så de UFO'et,
godt en meter fra vejen, det var ca. 20-25 meter bredt. Da det lettede, gik der
en sky af varmt, rødt støv ind over dem. Objektet var metalgråt med sorte dele,
hvor kraftcentret var. Støvet hang fast på bilen i flere uger, det havde
ligefrem smeltet sig ind i lakken på den hvide varevogn. I vognen havde de en
ladning elektronisk udstyr, og efter oplevelsen fandt de ud af, at hver eneste
valve og diode i udstyret var ,,sprunget", og de måtte tage hjem for at skifte
dem ud.
Efter oplevelsen i 1974 viste det sig, at bilens dæk overhovedet ikke var blevet
slidt.
Peter havde købt nogle billige slidbaner(dekk) til turen, da det var hans
hensigt at vente med at købe nye dæk, til han kom til Sydafrika, hvor disse er
meget billigere. Syv måneder efter var slidbanerne stadig som nye, selvom de
havde kørt 7-8.000 km med dem, og de normalt kun holder til 1.200 km. Peter
fortalte, at de derimod havde haft en masse vrøvl med koblingen og generatoren,
som var udbrændt, og det kunne kun ske ved at køre for stærkt, og han mente
følgelig, at det måtte skyldes den høje fart på turen fra Rhodesia.
Her slutter Carl van Vlierdens interview med det unge par, men han fik sørget
for, at de kunne blive udspurgt under hypnose. Dette blev foranstaltet af dr.
Paul Obertik nogle dage senere i dennes konsultationsværelse. Der findes
adskillige niveauer indenfor hypnose, men dr. Obertik sagde, at Peter kom i en
meget dyb trancetilstand, hvor intet kunne skjules. Frances derimod kunne ikke
huske mere under hypnose end ved fuld bevidsthed.
Under den dybe hypnose talte Peter med en sløv og monoton stemme, og der var
også adskillige ord, der ikke kunne skelnes. Han sagde bl. a., at UFO'erne
sendte en slags stråler ned, der overtog kontrollen over bilen og over dem.
Rumskibet brugte radioen til meddelelser, (Peter og Frances havde troet, de
hørte et program fra Mozambique), og der blev sendt en skikkelse ned på
bagsædet, hvor den blev siddende under hele turen. Fra bilen kunne Peter se op i
rumskibet, der havde tre platforme, den nederste var kraftcentret, den midterste
opholdsrum og den øverste flyvedæk og kontrolcenter. Gennem hele rumskibet var
der to hule skakter, der fungerede som elevator. Der var et apparat i
laboratorieafdelingen, som væsenerne brugte til suggestion af mennesker, så de
accepterede deres omgivelser fuldstændigt. På et spørgsmål om, hvordan væsenerne
så ud, svarede Peter, at de tog form, som han selv ønskede det, men når han ikke
var under suggestion, havde de fysiske væsener samme form som mennesker, dog uden
kønsorganer, men han vidste ikke, hvordan de formerede sig. De var
venligtsindede og kom fra ydre galakser, og de var overordentligt avancerede,
men ikke udødelige.
Peter fortalte endvidere, at de ikke rejste i rum, men i tid, og altså kunne
komme milliarder af kilometer på få sekunder. De beherskede alle sprog perfekt
og havde gennem tiden ændret mange begivenheder på Jorden ved indirekte
indgriben. I dag er der tusinder af dem iblandt os, men de arbejder kun ved at
påvirke andre, og ønsker ikke at træde offentligt frem, fordi de ikke ønsker at
blive centrum for opmærksomhed, og langt de fleste mennesker ville alligevel
ikke forstå dem.
Uddrag af artikel i Flying Saucer Revie, oversatt og gjengitt i danske
UFO-ASPEKT nr.3/76.
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